A note from Joker Rachel Martin host: Julianne Nicholson has been busy breaking our hearts in recent years. She was completely captivating in Janet Planet As a mother dealing with unattended expectations of her life. And she won an Emmy for playing Kate Winslet’s best friend Easttown mare.
It is so good in these dramatic roles that it is easy to forget that Julianne Nicholson is also funny. If you scroll to the bottom of her prolific list of credits – you will see that she had a memorable arc of 13 episodes like Jenny Shaw in the beloved television show, Ally McBeal. She played this stupid endearing lawyer. And that was where people had a first look at his chemistry with actor James Marsden, who was just as cheesy and charming in the series.
They are now together in the Hulu series, HeavenWhere his chemistry with Marsden is electric in a different way. After all, it is a show on the end of the world and the survival of human civilization is at stake.
This Joker The interview has been modified for duration and clarity. Host Rachel Martin asks randomly selected questions from a card game. Press Play above to listen to the full podcast or read an extract below.
Julianne Nicholson, Zoe Ziegler and Annie Baker attend the Janet Planet Red Carpet during the 61st New York Film Festival in Alice Tully Hall, Lincoln Center in October 2023 in New York.
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Question 1: What is a smell that brings back a childhood memory of childhood?
Julianne Nicholson: When I grew up, my mother used this cream – I think you can always buy it. It is a cream called Skin Trip. It’s like coconut cream, very hippie. We started using it in the 1970s. And my mother would put a bottle of this in my sister and my stockings each year from our 10 year old era. And so now if I feel this cream, it brings me to grow in this small cabin in the woods of the west of Massachusetts when I had 7, 8, 9, 10 years.
Rachel Martin: I want to ask more about the cabin in the woods. As if it was rustic …
Nicholson: Yeah. Until 7 years old, I grew up outside Boston. And then my parents separated and my mother was single for a while, then she and my younger sister and I went to move in with my stepfather who went from Maine to this small cabin without electricity or running water in the west of Massachusetts.
Martin: Wow. I’m sure it’s a boring question, but when you don’t say interior plumbing, do you mean you have an addiction?
Nicholson: We had an addiction. There were toilets inside, but we were not allowed to use it in summer.
Martin: Okay, you were looking forward to certain seasons when you say to yourself: “I poop inside!”
Nicholson: Exactly, exactly. Although now, I actually have very good memories, even if at the time it was like, “Oh damn. I have to go out”, and it would be snow. But I have memories of sitting in dependence with the open door, because there was no one on kilometers and kilometers, with a flashlight that shines outside, and it was all the trees and the snow that fell through the bundle of the flashlight.
So, in fact, with hindsight, it’s very beautiful. My mother and stepfather have a very beautiful lifestyle. Whoever takes work, but it is very simple and as being connected to the earth, and I find it really moving. I love to disconnect myself and be with them.
Question 2: What did you have to abandon as you grew up?
Nicholson: Well, alcohol.
Martin: I just did it six months ago.
Nicholson: Yeah. In 2016, I realized that it no longer worked for me. So it was a huge gift. Not always easy, but really good.
Martin: Have you noticed a difference? I mean, I have a million questions about this, because it is still a relatively new thing for me. I also realized that it made me no favor. And had been a real crutch for me for a long time. But I always find it difficult to socialize.
Nicholson: I know, I understand perfectly. At the beginning, it was terrifying to feel like: “I can’t believe I have to go sober.” And now it looks like: “In fact, I’m not great in social situations. And it’s okay.” When there are a lot of people, I can barely be careful that someone says, especially if I don’t know them. I’m fine if it’s a group of friends, it’s easy. But if I am at a work event or a school event for my children and there are too many people and that I do not know them well enough and that people speak to me, it is not my strong costume.
Julianne Nicholson attends the Heaven Photo call at the Corinthia hotel in London in January.
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Martin: So then are you going? Don’t you go to these things?
Nicholson: I mean I have to go for my work, in fact, but I generally try to hang on to someone I know who is my little social security coverage. And I just take a break. Like, I don’t need to be good in this area.
Martin: And what do you drink?
Nicholson: Sparkling water (blows a raspberry)
Martin: (laughs) Don’t you even drink a ginger beer?
Nicholson: I like ginger beer with a meal. I like non -alcoholic beer.
Martin: I always have trouble with people when there is so much excitement, “Oh, meet for a glass of wine” or as, you meet a person and they are really in whiskey.
And their enthusiasm for the alcohol centered event is so sharp. And I have the impression that the buzzkill was like, “I will have your … non -alcoholic beer.”
Nicholson: Probably the more you have with that, I imagine that you will feel less worried and aware of you and the other can still do it. And then often when they are two glasses, three glasses, I say to myself: “Thank God, I’m clear and I’m going to feel good tomorrow when I wake up.”
It’s worth it, but I didn’t want to have to give up this.
Question 3: When did you experience fear?
Nicholson: The first time we went to Yosemite, my husband and my children and I crossed this tunnel, and you go out and you see El Capitan. I felt it in the hollow of my stomach. It was really fear – just a natural beauty. I do not remember having had this particular feeling before.
I find a lot of fear in nature, in fact. I find fear in flowers, delicacy and complexity and colors of flowers. It is probably a fairly common response to nature.
Martin: The idea of ​​inherent fear is inherent in an idea of ​​smallness, right? For example, the perspective, I think, is a kind of wonderful feeling of feeling little.
Nicholson: Yeah, I agree. It’s a great way to look at it. It was like more than a mountain face, it was just an expression of being small in a vast universe.
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