Rudy Giuliani appeared as a witness at his attorney’s misconduct hearing on Monday.
Opposing counsel grew increasingly frustrated as Giuliani failed to answer simple questions, veered off course and aired absurd allegations of voter fraud.
“I ask you what time it is and you tell me how to make a watch,” the lawyer told Giuliani at one point.
Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani appeared as the first witness in his own attorney misconduct hearing on Monday, but proceedings quickly turned combative as opposing counsel slammed Giuliani for failing to answered simple questions and often wandered off course.
The ethics case, brought by the Washington, D.C. Bar Disciplinary Council’s office, focuses on Giuliani’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election results in Pennsylvania while he was President Donald’s personal attorney. Trump. Specifically, the ODC alleges that the former New York mayor filed a “frivolous” lawsuit seeking to overturn the Pennsylvania presidential election results, despite the fact that there was “no basis factual or legal” for Giuliani’s allegations of widespread voter fraud.
By filing the lawsuit, the ODC said, Giuliani violated Pennsylvania’s rules of professional conduct and “engaged in conduct prejudicial to the administration of justice.”
On Monday, disciplinary attorney Hamilton Fox said in his opening arguments that Giuliani “cocked his law license” in an effort to undermine the Constitution.
“Mr. Giuliani was responsible for filing a frivolous lawsuit asking a Pennsylvania court to deny millions of people the right to vote,” Fox said during the virtual hearing.
Fox grew increasingly frustrated with Giuliani as the proceedings progressed. At one point, he was trying to get more details from Giuliani about his role in the Pennsylvania case trial, but the former mayor repeatedly swerved and began airing absurd allegations of voter fraud in other states.
“Mr. Giuliani, I’m trying to find out what your role was in writing – in drafting – the original complaint in Pennsylvania,” Fox said. “I ask you what time it is, and you tell me how to make a watch.”
“Well, you know, I really think you should let me answer the question, so I can understand the context in which I was operating,” Giuliani said. “That way you don’t create the false impression that all my time and attention was spent on one matter when it wasn’t.”
Later in the proceedings, Giuliani was again reminded that he was there to answer questions as a witness when he began to comment on a 5-2 decision by the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania on the proceedings of vote in the state.
“I remember it very, very clearly,” Giuliani said of the decision. “That’s a very debatable opinion.”
Fox ignored Giuliani and pointed out that the decision provided that election observers “be allowed to remain in the room where ballots are counted.”
“So you will agree that my position is reasonable, since it was the same position as … the dissidents,” Giuliani said. “It was barely…”
Fox then chimed in, saying, “Mr. Giuliani, I’m asking the questions.”
Robert Bernius, a retired lawyer who presided over the hearings, also repeatedly tried to contain Giuliani.
“Mr Giuliani, I understand your frustration, but this is not the time when you should be pressing your claims,” he said. “Just answer the questions. Thanks.
Earlier today, Bernius interrupted another lengthy rant by Giuliani to remind him that he was testifying as a “witness”.
The former mayor then said he had been “persecuted for three years or more” and that his actions were taken out of context.
“You’ve been a litigator for a long time and you understand how the process works,” Bernius said. “The process is regularized.”
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