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Big names in tech, including Peter Thiel and Keith Rabois, have moved to Miami in the past year. Mayor Francis Suarez welcomes them with open arms in his zeal to turn Miami into the next tech hub. The sale? Sunshine, low taxes and a mayor who’s always ready to take their calls (or, as Kara Swisher puts it, “pet them”).

In this conversation, Swisher asks Suarez if Miami – a city with rising sea levels and without an institution like Stanford in its backyard – can truly become the next Silicon Valley. She also asks what he is looking for in the long term. Suarez, a Republican, gained national attention during the pandemic for his tensions with Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and President Donald Trump.

He is now rumored to be a candidate to be Nikki Haley’s running mate in the 2024 presidential race – speculation he also welcomes with open arms. “I certainly didn’t hesitate to want to bond and bond with her,” he says. So, does Suarez want to be on a Republican ticket? His response: “I wouldn’t say no.”

Thoughts? Write to us at sway@nytimes.com. Transcripts of each episode are available at noon.

Special thanks to Shannon Busta, Liriel Higa and Michelle Harris.

“Sway” is produced by Nayeema Raza, Blakeney Schick, Heba Elorbany, Matt Kwong and Daphne Chen, and edited by Nayeema Raza and Paula Szuchman; fact-checking by Kate Sinclair; music and sound design by Isaac Jones; mixing by Erick Gomez.



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