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Gail: Phew.

Bret: Otherwise, I’m going to have a hard time voting for Biden unless he suddenly moves to the center. Which brings me back to what we were talking about earlier. I hope his spending and tax proposals will be defeated, much like Bill Clinton was beaten in his first two years. Then, if Republicans regain control of at least one chamber of Congress, there may be bipartisan progress, especially on immigration reform and consistent Chinese policy.

Gail: And I’ll be making sullen comments from the sidelines.

Bret: A similar thing happened with Clinton, who was re-elected after showing he can get things done – in his case, ending “welfare as we know it.”

Gail: And raise the taxes of the rich….

Bret: I liked this part less.

Gail: I can’t say I liked Clinton’s entire domestic agenda, but I like to point out that he eliminated the budget deficit, something no Republican has managed to do since Dwight D. Eisenhower.

I don’t know we’ve talked a lot about deficit spending. Do you think this is a bad thing?

Bret: Within reason, not really. It depends on whether the spending is worth it, as it was when we spent more than the Soviet Union militarily in the 1980s to accelerate its economic collapse. And it depends on whether the spending improves economic growth, as some infrastructure spending might, or delays it, especially if the government creates incentives not to work.

Changing the subject, it looks like Gavin Newsom is going to face a recall vote. Could California re-elect a Republican for a statewide post?

Gail: Maybe if a hitherto unknown moderate Republican with liberal social views and an extremely glamorous profile emerges. Otherwise, I would say, uh, no.

Bret: Is Conan the Septuagenarian out of the question?

Gail: On his last visit, Arnold Schwarzenegger was making the news complaining that the Oscars were boring. Does not suggest a thirst for tough campaigns.

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