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British President: we cannot let mafia power break democracy

“What happened on Capitol Hill, we’re going to make sure it doesn’t happen here,” Hoyle told CNN in an exclusive TV interview.

Hoyle, who as speaker is the highest authority in the UK House of Commons, welcomes US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other counterparts to the G7 Speakers’ Summit this weekend. The in-person event takes place in his hometown of Chorley, in the North West of England, with a focus on ‘safe and open parliaments’.

Addressing the Jan. 6 uprising on the United States Capitol, Hoyle said, “It was the rule of the mob taking over, trying to shatter democracy. These people don’t believe in our values, they don’t believe in democracy. You know, the point is, if we don’t have democracy, we have dictatorship. It is never the answer. “
Hoyle experienced local terror in his own parliament. On March 22, 2017, Hoyle – then Deputy Speaker – suspended a sitting of the House of Commons as a terrorist attack unfolded in Westminster. Five people have died, including a police officer, after the lone assailant mowed down pedestrians on Westminster Bridge, rammed his car into the railings outside Houses of Parliament and engaged in a knife rampage.

“I was sitting in the chair that day. Getting a pat on the shoulder to say that a policeman is dying on the cobblestones of Parliament is something I never want to experience again,” said Hoyle.

The Westminster attack came less than a year after UK MP Jo Cox was shot and stabbed in her northern England constituency by a far-right extremist.

“The tragedy of losing a rising star in this Parliament has sent shockwaves, not only to this country but to the world, to say: it is not just (a) perceived threat,” said Hoyle, who was elected president by his fellow deputies. in November 2019. “It was the real start of the shock.”

The G7 Presidents’ Summit will also address other modern security threats, including trolling and online harassment.

“Women parliamentarians suffer the worst. The bulk of this also goes to ethnic women parliamentarians. The fact that they feel real threats and real threats of violence against them is not acceptable,” Hoyle said. . “When a congressman says to me, ‘Lindsay, I don’t think I’m going to get up again. I don’t feel safe. My family has to come first, “I know we have to do more.”

Hoyle also spoke to CNN about the current distrust of politicians and the bitter rhetoric of political debates.

A petition calling for making lying a criminal offense in the House of Commons has garnered more than 130,000 signatures and could be debated by lawmakers. The government, however, said it “did not intend to introduce a bill of this nature” and that the conduct of members of the House “rests with the President”.

Asked how the issue should be handled – with the opposition’s allegations of lying extending to Prime Minister Boris Johnson – Hoyle said he was unable to resolve it despite being in custody the most authority in the room.

“I don’t have the power. They want me to be an impartial speaker. So that’s a political judgment (which) says ‘that’s a lie’,” Hoyle said. “If they want a political speaker, say so, make me a political speaker.

“President Pelosi is very political, but I don’t have the same power… I’m not saying I would refuse it. In fact, it’s very tempting to be able to give me that political power too. I promised was to be impartial. It is my impartiality that I must protect.

When asked if he thinks behavior in Parliament is improving, Hoyle said he genuinely thinks it is improving.

“Of course we’re going to have divergent views. That’s the raison d’être of politics,” Hoyle said. “I don’t want them all to be okay with each other. That would be pretty boring for me too. So it’s about having excitement in the bedroom, but it’s also about to control that excitement as well. ”